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# 21
01-30-2010, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBranagh
No it isnt, you could be playing now WITHOUT lifetime sub...or any sub.

I have lifetime and I dont consider it being used untill the 2nd.
If you stop playing right now until the 2nd then you have a valid argument. You could not start playing this game without PAYING for something, therefore this play time has been payed for and is not free.
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# 22
01-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Seriously though, what is the excuse then Tuesday? Please tell me wait to see what happens as I think it's pretty clear what will happen. I can't wait to see the excuses flying then. Should be an E ticket ride.
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# 23
01-30-2010, 12:44 PM
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If you stop playing right now until the 2nd then you have a valid argument. You could not start playing this game without PAYING for something, therefore this play time has been payed for and is not free.
This play time comes free with the purchase of the game.

If someone were to pay the same amount of money a month down the road, they wouldn't be getting this week. They would only get their month of gaming, just like you will get once this free week is over.
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# 24
01-30-2010, 12:44 PM
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So you didnt have to put money down to play for head start?

No, I didn't.




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Darn, where did you get your key?

Cryptic dropped a beta key on my account for the open beta. It works as a pre-order key.


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We paid in advance for the right to play this game, it is money time stop using that excuse.

You paid for access to the content. That access does not come with a 24/7/365 guarantee of availability.

You can certainly suit yourself to be upset about unexpected downtimes but, it is scarcely realistic to expect no issues ever, whether you are playing for free, or paid 1,000 bucks.


"Stuff" happens.
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# 25
01-30-2010, 12:45 PM
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Seriously though, what is the excuse then Tuesday? Please tell me wiait to see what happens as I think it's pretty clear what will happen. I can't wait to see the excuses flying then. Should be an E ticket ride.
Yep I think we will see more of the "Many other MMOs sucked at launch" excuse. And of course I will point out LOTRO which didnt suck at launch, if one MMO can do it, then all of them should be able to.
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# 26
01-30-2010, 12:45 PM
Every Major MMO has launched very rocky. WoW,SWG,**** etc. Its the nature of the beast.

If you cannot handle MMO launches then for the love of god dont join an MMO right away.
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# 27
01-30-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by azsmodeus View Post
This play time comes free with the purchase of the game.

If someone were to pay the same amount of money a month down the road, they wouldn't be getting this week. They would only get their month of gaming, just like you will get once this free week is over.
Free with a purchase in the eyes of the legal system has been considered payed for.

So what happens if you buy a $1000 loaf of bread and the company promises to give you a free car if you order the bread before it hits shelves and then decides to give you a hunk of metal from a car but not the whole car? You just paid $1000 for a loaf of bread. Congrats.

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No, I didn't.


Cryptic dropped a beta key on my account for the open beta. It works as a pre-order key.

The beta keys acquired by free promos from other sites do not count as head start keys, only the beta keys that were paid for with pre-orders count, unless you can prove otherwise to me. Its the same as me, my beta key counts also, but I actually bought that key for $5 as a down payment of sorts.
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# 28
01-30-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
Lifetime means I've put a lot of money down.
Plus you can't play headstart without a preorder which means you've already PAID unless you're some dishonest pirate who plans on cancelling at the last minute.

So yes. Money time.
It also means you got a discounted price and you will, in turn get what you paid for after about a year and a half of play. You are not charged for game time when playing in early start. It is merely a thank you for preordering the game. It's like having 4 days to play at no cost. Yes you pay for the license and software when you buy the game but so do those who will buy it come Tuesday. They will pay the same amount and will only have the payment plans available to them (which will not be lifetime sub or 1 year sub btw). My point is come Tuesday if we are having the same problems then yes grab your torches and storm the castle or w/e it is you do until then be appreciative you can play before official launch. IMPO I think they should have just released it on Tuesday. I felt the same way during early release of Champions. I understand some of the aggravation thinking the game isn't going to be ready but to be honest I have seen a lot done through closed and open beta. I have to say with the prgogress that has been made, I have no worries that the majority of the bugs will be fixed. Now if you all will excuse me the server will be up soon and I have a ship to prepare for launch.
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# 29
01-30-2010, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Seljek View Post
F
The beta keys acquired by free promos from other sites do not count as head start keys, only the beta keys that were paid for with pre-orders count, unless you can prove otherwise to me. Its the same as me, my beta key counts also, but I actually bought that key for $5 as a down payment of sorts.
Please re-read my original statement.

It wasn't a key from a partner site.

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unless you can prove otherwise to me
Pray, tell how.
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# 30
01-30-2010, 12:58 PM
[quote=Seljek;1782475]Free with a purchase in the eyes of the legal system has been considered payed for.

So what happens if you buy a $1000 loaf of bread and the company promises to give you a free car if you order the bread before it hits shelves and then decides to give you a hunk of metal from a car but not the whole car? You just paid $1000 for a loaf of bread. Congrats.


The beta keys acquired by free promos from other sites do not count as head start keys, only the beta keys that were paid for with pre-orders count, unless you can prove otherwise to me. Its the same as me, my beta key counts also, but I actually bought that key for $5 as a down payment of sorts.[/QUOTE

The car and bread scenerio is harldy a good comparison. First of all you aren't getting just a part of the game. If the people giving me the car started out with a door for example and had an entire brand new car built in 4 days that would be a better comparison. Your game time does not start until Tuesday relax. After Tuesday troll away.
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