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# 91
02-01-2010, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Saar420 View Post
First, the defensive attitude shared by many klingons players is annoying and makes it difficult for any meaningful discussions.


I played during OB. I found matches to favor the federation then. It was imbalanced. Now, I find them to heavily favor klingons. Its like the reverse of what it use to be. I don't know why, but I know its true. It needs to be rebalanced.
Do you even understand what you are saying.

There is 0 changes in balance since OB. (nothing big)

L2 Premade. get friends and rent a Ventrilo server so you can talk and not type in chat
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# 92
02-01-2010, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBenz View Post
Its very unblanced T2 as well.

Fed escorts are trash. They are soft and have been nerfed on damage badly.

Cannon are useless because the BOPs are SOOO much faster.

BOPs are DPS,TANK and defuffer all in one.

Many more issuses but, hey thats how games work. They super buffed klingons so people would play them.

Fed escorts are pretty much the same as raptors. Bird of Preys are a whole different animal considering they have universal bo slots and a +20 turn rate throughout the tiers. The downside to bops are they universal bo slots they give up an extra slot for having a universal option and battle cloak.

Balance wise escort = raptor and is fine it's the lack of a science ship and having a unique escort centric ship that can be used for many purposes.

Pretty sure BOPs take a hit on hull and the like compared to raptor. Problem is if it's enough of a hit to bother with. Tier 2 it didn't look like it mattered much.
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# 93
02-01-2010, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Saar420 View Post
First, the defensive attitude shared by many klingons players is annoying and makes it difficult for any meaningful discussions.


I played during OB. I found matches to favor the federation then. It was imbalanced. Now, I find them to heavily favor klingons. Its like the reverse of what it use to be. I don't know why, but I know its true. It needs to be rebalanced.
No meaningful discussions here. Just a bunch of feds QQ'ing because they havent learnt to play yet.

We can mow thru a PUG for 5 escorts, thats easy - stop bringing them, want to make the klingons cry - 3 cruisers and 2 sci ships setup to heal each other and support one and other. YOU'LL WIN

Stop posting this crap until you've gone out and specc'd to do that and flown with a premade. You're not solo players, theres no room for them in PvP. Want to feel good about killing klingons without effort - go do your PVE stuff.

Firepower vs Firepower in t1 and t2 klingons outclass you. You know why, its all we have. Wait until we get a t2 cruiser and its worth speccing up a new toon for sci/engie If you guys havent learnt to spider tank by then, your gonna have a real hard time - because its the first thing my fleet with be perfecting

Dont worry thou - in t3 its all in your favour again, by then all the klingons have specc'd for heavy DPS in an escort, and cant afford to rebalance ourselves for the battlecruiser.

Rant over, and probably not expressed in any order but main points are all there.

tl;dr 3cruisers 2 sci premade setup to heal each other = WIN 5 escort PUG = lose
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# 94
02-01-2010, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonster
Klingons aren't over powered, it's just that T1 beams seem to do almost nothing to PVP quality shields. If the Mirandas equipped cannons and turrets they'd be doing more damage than klingons in the long run because they have better shields and hull.

So Feds, fire up your Miranda with rapid fire, and see just how much we also can't tank against cannon weapons in T1.
I actually did some pvp on the miranda with some green dual heavies same loadout as my bop in t1 had and couldn't kill a bop that was lower level (level6 I was 9). I had more shield and more hull and the same config as my bop but better quality and more skillpoint investment. There could be a glitch where buffs aren't showing on your target but I didn't see any.

Anyways that's my experience and more often than not you're fighting a pug not a group in vent. Something might be off I don't know nor care since my fed toon leveled fast enough out of that bracket. My poor klingon is stuck in tier 2 still atm need to level some more.
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# 95
02-01-2010, 02:01 AM
Klingons dont die!!!, The second they should of been destroyed the cloak and run away, heal then destroy you while you try to heal, Note to self, Get a fking tractor beam.
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# 96
02-01-2010, 02:14 AM
i really feel for you all who dont know how to play a simple game as STO.
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# 97
02-01-2010, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Saar420 View Post
First, the defensive attitude shared by many klingons players is annoying and makes it difficult for any meaningful discussions.


I played during OB. I found matches to favor the federation then. It was imbalanced. Now, I find them to heavily favor klingons. Its like the reverse of what it use to be. I don't know why, but I know its true. It needs to be rebalanced.
Because the same people who were playing together in ob, are playing together now, and playing against people who don't know how to adjust power levels or train bridge officers.
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# 98
02-01-2010, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
Because the same people who were playing together in ob, are playing together now, and playing against people who don't know how to adjust power levels or train bridge officers.
its funny really, many Fed players we encounter use 0 BO skills. And its T2.....
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# 99
02-01-2010, 05:43 AM
honestly i donīt get it.
When i was lvl 6 Fed, i had pretty much the same equip.
And to be honest, it was better, cause my consoles where chosen for a specific trait.
In PvP its as simple as that :
1 on 1
BoP gets behind the Fed - Fed is dead.
Fed gets behind or beside the BoP - BoP is in dead or in trouble.

Most ground encounter are even.
Most space encounter are slightly towards the Klingons in T1.
But a lot more to the Feds in Tier2.

I Play both sides btw

There are a lot of bugs ingame, and ground combat needs fixing far more then Space.
In space, at least you donīt get 1hit killed in 1on1.
On ground are many classes in Tier 1 almost useless, like medic or fabrication.
A scientist hits you with a hold, aims and shoots his secondary - bam up to 900 dmg and instakill.
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# 100
02-01-2010, 05:45 AM
Space combat actually is enjoyable as fed or as klingon, its nice.

Even if i pug with my Fed, its still nice as i dont use phasers.... i use mines and frontal 45~90 guns .... not canons, the other ones, dont remember gear from memory.
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