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Lt. Commander
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# 81
01-31-2010, 02:33 PM
This topic is a good example of the kind of pathos that infects new players.

1) You're not entitled to win. If you don't try hard enough, and you are bad at it, you lose big.
2) You've been playing for a couple days. You have no clue how to play. This matters.
3) Your gear sucks, get better gear.
4) Having the arrogance to demand changes to the game to lower the bar so that you can fall over it rather than learning to jump is pretty obnoxious.

This topic has no basis in reality. There is no resistance bonus.

How much more of this do we have to endure? It's tiresome.
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# 82
01-31-2010, 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
This topic is a good example of the kind of pathos that infects new players.

1) You're not entitled to win. If you don't try hard enough, and you are bad at it, you lose big.
2) You've been playing for a couple days. You have no clue how to play. This matters.
3) Your gear sucks, get better gear.
4) Having the arrogance to demand chances of the game to lower the bar so that you can fall over it rather than learning to jump is pretty obnoxious.

This topic has no basis in reality. There is no resistance bonus.

How much more of this do we have to endure? It's tiresome.
I'm afraid they'll cry nerf the Klingons until we're even more unplayable than we already are. Unfortunately since Feds out number us 100:1 it will probably happen eventually if the Devs listen to these people like they did in beta.
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# 83
01-31-2010, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Azma
Didnt realize Vent gave the Kling ships OP status. It's not the players, its the ship. No reason why a BoP should be able to tank as well as it dps's.
You are really making yourself look silly. Have you actually looked at the equipment the Birds of Prey start with? Its all white, with 2 green exceptions, the shield, and one disruptor. Compared to the Feds, at this level, if they do nothing but just run through missions to level 6, will have a vastly superior green shield with 20% disruptor resist, a green weapon of their choosing, and more than enough money to upgrade their remaining equipment to MK II white before EVER getting into PVP at level 6. Now, if these Fed players decide to activate any braincells, and utilize any of the other options available to them pre level 6 as well, such as exploration in delta volanis for badges, they equip a ship vastly superior to anything the klingons can field in level 6, before level 6.

My fed ship, at level 6, has all MK IIs, both phaser arrays are green, the shield is green with the 20% disruptor resistance, and I have a quantum torpedo launcher. Seriously, as much as I hate to use the term, L2P.
Lt. Commander
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# 84
01-31-2010, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Azma
It's sarcasm. Tactics vary, unlike you Klings who think everything is alright about your ships, and it comes down to the fact that it's your superior skilz. Give me a break, Kling ships are broke, I guess it's just the guys who have the previous experience who notice it.
Superior "skillz" as you call it plays a part. Again, you are most likely fighting well organized groups of Klingon players. Even if they are not on vent, they have played OB and CB. They were getting slaughtered by the fed ball for 3-4 days at the beginning of OB and guess what, they learned and adapted despite having **** poor gear. We complained about bugs and fixes that were needed and most are still broken except for one, which is that we now have gear in stock tier 1 taht is equal to fed gear.

THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. The rest comes down to "skillz" as you call it. In PvP you are only as good as the man next to you, if you still fail to f*cking realize this after all these posts then there is simply no helping you. Hell Cryptic could take the gear we get on our starter ships and return them to the broken crap we got back in OB and you would still get rolled I bet.
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# 85
01-31-2010, 03:09 PM
Time after time in pvp I am met with feds who full impulse up to the fight and then start firing their weapons, only to be doing 5-10 damage a hit.

They are not adjusting energy levels
draining weapons with full impulse
draining weapons with beam overcharge
wasting torps on shields

I am seeing a tremendous amount of newbie ignorance, which is fine ... everyone has to start somewhere - but what is wrong in the head with people that they think after a couple days that they know enough to be posting these topics?

Is this some residual damage from playing WoW? Look folks, we don't care how good you were wherever you came from. You suck here. Get used to that, and get better and for f' sake shut up until you get a clue.
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# 86
01-31-2010, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tain View Post
You are really making yourself look silly. Have you actually looked at the equipment the Birds of Prey start with? Its all white, with 2 green exceptions, the shield, and one disruptor. Compared to the Feds, at this level, if they do nothing but just run through missions to level 6, will have a vastly superior green shield with 20% disruptor resist, a green weapon of their choosing, and more than enough money to upgrade their remaining equipment to MK II white before EVER getting into PVP at level 6. Now, if these Fed players decide to activate any braincells, and utilize any of the other options available to them pre level 6 as well, such as exploration in delta volanis for badges, they equip a ship vastly superior to anything the klingons can field in level 6, before level 6.

My fed ship, at level 6, has all MK IIs, both phaser arrays are green, the shield is green with the 20% disruptor resistance, and I have a quantum torpedo launcher. Seriously, as much as I hate to use the term, L2P.
Id eat your ship with my lvl 6 Kling. People like you are the problem. Gear is not the main factor in this game, but I guess it's hard to shake that WoW mentality huh?
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# 87
01-31-2010, 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
Time after time in pvp I am met with feds who full impulse up to the fight and then start firing their weapons, only to be doing 5-10 damage a hit.

They are not adjusting energy levels
draining weapons with full impulse
draining weapons with beam overcharge
wasting torps on shields

I am seeing a tremendous amount of newbie ignorance, which is fine ... everyone has to start somewhere - but what is wrong in the head with people that they think after a couple days that they know enough to be posting these topics?

Is this some residual damage from playing WoW? Look folks, we don't care how good you were wherever you came from. You suck here. Get used to that, and get better and for f' sake shut up until you get a clue.
Cause, most of us have been playing for months..... oh but wait, most of you haven't. All of you Kling exclusive players are coming in here crying. You have Feds and other Kling players saying there's an issue. Whats the problem? You think it's hard to alpha strike every target in order without risk? No, thats how the kling side is played now. The only time the Feds get close to a victory is when the Kling players are so disorganized they are doing two man blitz attacks. The BoP should be exactly like our escorts at Tier 2 and above, squishy with a cannon. Whats the issue there?
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# 88
01-31-2010, 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiJiang
Superior "skillz" as you call it plays a part. Again, you are most likely fighting well organized groups of Klingon players. Even if they are not on vent, they have played OB and CB. They were getting slaughtered by the fed ball for 3-4 days at the beginning of OB and guess what, they learned and adapted despite having **** poor gear. We complained about bugs and fixes that were needed and most are still broken except for one, which is that we now have gear in stock tier 1 taht is equal to fed gear.

THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. The rest comes down to "skillz" as you call it. In PvP you are only as good as the man next to you, if you still fail to f*cking realize this after all these posts then there is simply no helping you. Hell Cryptic could take the gear we get on our starter ships and return them to the broken crap we got back in OB and you would still get rolled I bet.
I use "Skilz" as a mocking term. Sarcasm is beyond you obviously. CB/early OB had far better PVP. Kling players actually had to learn how to play and not just decloak, face target(not moving), alpha strike, insta win!
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# 89
01-31-2010, 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azma
Cause, most of us have been playing for months..... oh but wait, most of you haven't.
You do know that nearly everyone who disagrees with you was in CB and OB right?
Lt. Commander
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# 90
01-31-2010, 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azma
Cause, most of us have been playing for months..... oh but wait, most of you haven't. All of you Kling exclusive players are coming in here crying. You have Feds and other Kling players saying there's an issue. Whats the problem? You think it's hard to alpha strike every target in order without risk? No, thats how the kling side is played now. The only time the Feds get close to a victory is when the Kling players are so disorganized they are doing two man blitz attacks. The BoP should be exactly like our escorts at Tier 2 and above, squishy with a cannon. Whats the issue there?
Issue is Mirandas can use cannons in T1, and the T1 BoP doesn't have an advantage with facing guns. I'm telling you this is a beam vs cannon issue in T1 not a Fed vs Klingon issue.
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