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As per the title why "escort", "cruiser" and "science vessel"?

Why not "small", "medium" and "large" where hull/weapons/shields are a function of that system?
Captain
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# 2
03-04-2014, 01:57 PM
Because the game was originally going to be based on the Trinity: DPS, Tank, Support. Plans got changed but the ship Classes stayed.

Plus the Defiant is a small ship, but packs a HUGE punch, and it would not work being defined by size.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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# 3
03-04-2014, 01:58 PM
They're not. They are broken into tactical, engineering, and science ships. Not all tactical ships are Escorts, and not all science ships are Science Vessels.


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# 4
03-04-2014, 01:58 PM
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As per the title why "escort", "cruiser" and "science vessel"?

Why not "small", "medium" and "large" where hull/weapons/shields are a function of that system?
To fit with lore (At least to some extent), and to fit with the trinity and the 3 classes

WHy are you even playing this game, all you ever seem to do is complain about every little thing related to this game.
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# 5
03-04-2014, 02:01 PM
I believe drkfrontiers logged onto an alternate account...
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# 6
03-04-2014, 02:02 PM
Because escort (damage dealer), science (support) and cruiser (tank) is typical MMO style, makes more sense and is more IP related than small, medium and large which really makes no sense and tell us nothing.

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# 7
03-04-2014, 02:29 PM
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Because the game was originally going to be based on the Trinity: DPS, Tank, Support. Plans got changed but the ship Classes stayed.

Plus the Defiant is a small ship, but packs a HUGE punch, and it would not work being defined by size.
Holy trinity? Check; however, I did not argue that a small ship cannot have powerful weaponry (or that a large ship cannot have weak weaponry for that matter).

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They're not. They are broken into tactical, engineering, and science ships. Not all tactical ships are Escorts, and not all science ships are Science Vessels.
Your response has nothing to do with my topic and is grossly inaccurate as an assessment of what is currently in game. You have gone through the tutorial and used the shipyard, right?

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To fit with lore (At least to some extent), and to fit with the trinity and the 3 classes
3 classes? In game the Federation alone has dozens of classes for ships, what does that have to do with Escort/Cruiser/Science-Vessel?

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WHy are you even playing this game, all you ever seem to do is complain about every little thing related to this game.
You seem to strongly "associate self-worth with the products you prefer" and consistently "lash out at people who question those products at all". Show your parents this response and revel in the glory that is their /uinstalling STO before they send you to their room and fight over "who went wrong" in your upbringing.

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I believe drkfrontiers logged onto an alternate account...
Which one is drkfrontiers?

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Because escort (damage dealer), science (support) and cruiser (tank) is typical MMO style, makes more sense and is more IP related than small, medium and large which really makes no sense and tell us nothing.
"small", "medium", "large" are arbitrary placeholders like "escort", "cruiser", and "science vessel."

They are "figurative representations".

Also, the "holy trinity" is not really IP-related at all.
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# 8
03-04-2014, 02:35 PM
To be fair, nothing as far as classification meant anything until the recent introduction of cruiser commands, flanking bonuses (if they ever get rolled out) and now secondary deflectors. There were escorts and destroyers used interchangeably, sci ships abilities put on cruisers and escorts, and cruisers that had escort roles. It's only recently that any "classes" outside of true carriers really had any truly definitive features. We still need to know what the defining features of escorts and destroyers are going to be, but at least we can point at a ship and say "that's a Battle Cruiser" now.
So, I am sitting alongside a Caitian Atrox Carrier at Earth Spacedock, and I think to myself "Man, that ship has a lot of windows".

Then it occurs to me that it makes a lot of sense, because cats love to sit in windows.
Captain
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# 9
03-04-2014, 02:37 PM
Because... we need some form of classification for ships.
I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!

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# 10
03-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by projectfrontier View Post
As per the title why "escort", "cruiser" and "science vessel"?

Why not "small", "medium" and "large" where hull/weapons/shields are a function of that system?
Uh... Escorts have small hull and shields, with 7 weapon slots. Cruisers have large hull and shields, and have 8 weapon slots. Science Vessels have large shields and medium hulls, and have 6 weapon slots. The current names ARE a function of that system... Are you just asking to change an immersion-related name to an immersion-less name?
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