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Lt. Commander
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# 31
02-01-2010, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodlance View Post
Read this, its the reason for it.

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Ground combat is totally an issue, i dont even want to talk about it.

But space combat atm seems pretty ok.

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Now about the gearing, Feds get with missions => Blue gear, thus meaning when they level up from 1-10, they already have blue weapons, and blue shield (that are equal to T2 vendor items). When Feds have levelled 11-20, they have again blue gear that is equal to T3 items from vendors. This continues until the last tier of ships are reached and thus again Feds get blue gear on em.

Now i want to point one thing out.... Klingons dont get blue gear from drops/missions thus we have to PvP/Kahless to get our gear (after 20-21 we have 0 PvE missions).

Klingon side:

lvl ~8, you have T1 PvP vendor gear on your ship weapons/shield/tac console etc (PvP/Kahless)
lvl ~15, you have T2 PvP vendor gear on your ship weapons/shield/tac console etc (PvP/Kahless)
lvl ~25, you have T3 PvP vendor gear on your ship weapons/shield/tac console etc (PvP)
lvl ~35, you have T4 PvP vendor gear on your ship weapons/shield/tac console etc (PvP)

Fed side:

lvl ~6, you have equal gear like in T2 (missions)
lvl ~15, you have equal gear like in T3 (missions)
lvl ~25, you have equal gear like in T4 (missions)
lvl ~35, you have equal gear like in T5 (missions)

So they can pretty much a s s **** every Klingon if they premade the blue geared players from x5-> next level in PvP. this is only visible from T2 to later tiers, T1 is a joke anyway as people are nonguilded and learn to play at this bracket(t1).

And no this is not a joke. Its real and Devs have intended it as such.
OMG its blue. Has anyone checked the stats out?

lvl5 item blue not necessarily > lvl 8 white.
Lt. Commander
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# 32
02-01-2010, 05:18 AM
atm i am lvl 16(Klingon), and i intend to do Kahless only to reach 21 and then only play Fed until Klingons have PvE that rewards with the same level gear then Feds get (blues etc). Also some fleet action maps with Klingon that gives top 5 players random blue and green items. Thus meaning we get good gear and exp same time (atm we get 0 anything when PvEing only exp).

So basically i get to play my Klingon next time in Summer time i assume .... or end of year
Lt. Commander
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# 33
02-01-2010, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grey2ham View Post
OMG its blue. Has anyone checked the stats out?

lvl5 item blue not necessarily > lvl 8 white.
Yes i actually play Fed atm, lvl 8 and i have better gear in my T1 ship then i can buy from T2 PvP vendor.

your point is ?
Lt. Commander
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# 34
02-01-2010, 05:58 AM
Currently the Klingons have an advantage with the "get out of jail free" cloak. It pretty much REQUIRES a science vessel or boarding parties to even kill 1 ship. I've seen 5 Fed ships all pounding a single bird of prey, and the bird of prey wasn't even phased. It killed the science vessel and cloaked away...

In the movies, Klingons had to drop shields to cloak.... WTF.
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# 35
02-01-2010, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cpl_Roberts
Currently the Klingons have an advantage with the "get out of jail free" cloak. It pretty much REQUIRES a science vessel or boarding parties to even kill 1 ship. I've seen 5 Fed ships all pounding a single bird of prey, and the bird of prey wasn't even phased. It killed the science vessel and cloaked away...

In the movies, Klingons had to drop shields to cloak.... WTF.
Are you for real ?

In this game when you cloak, your shields drop... wtf ? let me repeat , are you for real ?
Lt. Commander
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# 36
02-01-2010, 06:44 AM
1. somewhat

2. combat cloak makes it absurdly easy to run away. but in capture the flag mode, since you cannot be cloaked to capture the flag, federation can sometimes win that.

During peak time, I would be surprised if FED's win a single space cage match. I'm full MK 4 teir 2, and at best I will get 1 ship low before he combat cloaks away if I'm not primaried and killed within seconds.
Lt. Commander
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# 37
02-01-2010, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pmcubed
1. somewhat

2. combat cloak makes it absurdly easy to run away. but in capture the flag mode, since you cannot be cloaked to capture the flag, federation can sometimes win that.

During peak time, I would be surprised if FED's win a single space cage match. I'm full MK 4 teir 2, and at best I will get 1 ship low before he combat cloaks away if I'm not primaried and killed within seconds.
in the world i live in, if a focused player cloaks, he dies.
Lt. Commander
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# 38
02-01-2010, 06:57 AM
Even so, the cloak controls the battle entirely. Not to mention it seems tanking against two ships in T2 PvP is impossible now as a fed. I don't know what happened, but BoP's and other escorts just tear shields apart like nothing now. Even with several BOff's flying.
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# 39
02-01-2010, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloodlance View Post
in the world i live in, if a focused player cloaks, he dies.
QFT.

2 feds on me, normally i can get away with scramming one of them first and bugging out. Normally i get 6-7k away think "made it" and then the torps hit.

FF from more? try to get as close to the feds as i can before i go pop
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# 40
02-01-2010, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Emn1ty View Post
Even so, the cloak controls the battle entirely. Not to mention it seems tanking against two ships in T2 PvP is impossible now as a fed. I don't know what happened, but BoP's and other escorts just tear shields apart like nothing now. Even with several BOff's flying.
Its 5vs5, not 1vs2 or 1vs5.

Team vs Team

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I give you an example,

Our 5man premade has 2-5 players(depending who plays) who can help a friendly player, thus meaning when one of our ship is focused he is kept alive with repairs and shield boosts.

The problem you have, is that even if you specialize in tanking, you wont survive more then 10 seconds with basic survival BOffs, you need repairs and shield transfer from other Fed ships.

T1 is a tutorial, T2=> is the place where Teams are judged and if your Team sucks, you die, everytime.
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