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# 121
02-01-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
Suraknar, weren't you earlier today asking basic questions about the game? What sudden burst of insight has overcome you?
And what right do you have to profile members? All I see you doing here is bashing fed complaints of OP klingon ships in T1 and T2. You have yet to provide any real constructive points.
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# 122
02-01-2010, 05:04 PM
We dont need to post points because we aren't OP.

Keep trying.
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# 123
02-01-2010, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
Suraknar, weren't you earlier today asking basic questions about the game? What sudden burst of insight has overcome you?
When you been playing MMORPG's for 12 years, you tend to become a fast learner. I ask questions when I am at a loss but with a couple of answers I can connect the dots quite well after that.

And I been pondering a bit more on this question, if you think about it, it is true that Klingons lack some content and it maybe ok after all that they dominate Tier One, these are Antiquated Miranda class Ships we are fighting with...

And the Klingons are Combat Hardy people from Childhood, it would be normal from that point of view that they dominate a bunch of Star Fleet Ensigns that got promoted to Captain a ship under extreme circumstances.

Mechanically speaking, maybe it is the way it is on purpose so that the Fed PvP gets gradually better as the Ensigns progress to Captains of their own right and become combat hardy as well.

So, while, I may have been concerned this morning following yesterday nights experience, and with many questions seeking to understand some mechanics, most of you are Honorable Warriors and gave straight answers which helped in the overall understanding of the Big Picture here.

Live long, fight hard, and prosper!
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# 124
02-01-2010, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Emn1ty View Post
130k damage should not be possible by one person in T2 PvP, yet it just happened and my team was flying ALL cruisers and we lost anyways. Don't see why people are having such a hard time with cruisers. Our team was even well coordinated and we still lost.
Funny. I see fed escorts pulling that off in tier 2 all the time.

I get up to about...66k in my BOP. I'm sure I can get more if I got better weapons and fought more.
I tend to capture points alot.
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# 125
02-01-2010, 05:08 PM
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130k damage should not be possible by one person in T2 PvP, yet it just happened and my team was flying ALL cruisers and we lost anyways. Don't see why people are having such a hard time with cruisers. Our team was even well coordinated and we still lost.
100k damage is my average (and the average for alot of other good klingon players)...

Its not hard to get that mutch damage in PvP, however comparing our Damage witht he feds damage is a fools errand...

Feds have stronger shields than klignons so naturaly we must give more damage to break through their shields thus teh large difference in damage...

For example I've seen T2 science ships with over 7k shields and the best I can get in t2 for my BoP is jsut over 3k...

Thats a huge difference so that means a klignon in a bop vs a science need to give twice its damage...

Seems pretty fair to me imo...
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# 126
02-01-2010, 05:10 PM
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Funny. I see fed escorts pulling that off in tier 2 all the time.

I get up to about...66k in my BOP. I'm sure I can get more if I got better weapons and fought more.
I tend to capture points alot.
I have yet to see a fed escort top 100k in T2. But that's me.
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# 127
02-01-2010, 05:10 PM
PvP will slowly sort itself out. Like most games, most players try it out. As soon as it becomes obvious that you need hard twinking to survive, the average player will quit, leaving it to the hardcore professional PvP player, about 7-10% of any server population traditionally. If it is like other MMOs that have similar PvP systems (LOTRO) the PvP arenas will be ghost towns in short order. Occasionally very well equipped PvP teams will venture in from the Fed side, and face whatever Klingon PvP players are left by then.

The main question is not IF PvP will be balanced, but how it will be balanced. If it becomes a ghost town quick enough, a distinct possibility, then it will get no improvement at all, and efforts will be made to make the Klingons PvE ready (I assume this is what will happen). If some hard core Fed PvP players survive the winnowing, then it will be rebalanced and improved.
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# 128
02-01-2010, 05:11 PM
Oh yes a final thing to say.

i witnessed some Klingons rubbing it to the Feds in the end of matches, with things like "learn to play" and "Go back to PVE"...I take it these must be part of the House of Dhuras or some other faction within the KDF that has no honor.

if anything a true Klingon would at least acknowledge that Star Fleet Captains fought with Honor to the death (the Most honorable way there is to go from the Klingon perspective)...but it seems these Klingons are without Honor nevertheless.

It is a good day to die...if you are Honorable.

Live long, fight hard, and prosper!
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# 129
02-01-2010, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Emn1ty View Post
I have yet to see a fed escort top 100k in T2. But that's me.
You're right. That is just you.

Same with alot of these OP Klingon claims. They seem to just be you and other people that dont think things through OR see things from the other side.

Many of the people who play klingon have given it to both sides and know what going on.
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# 130
02-01-2010, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Suraknar View Post
Oh yes a final thing to say.

i witnessed some Klingons rubbing it to the Feds in the end of matches, with things like "learn to play" and "Go back to PVE"...I take it these must be part of the House of Dhuras or some other faction within the KDF that has no honor.

if anything a true Klingon would at least acknowledge that Star Fleet Captains fought with Honor to the death (the Most honorable way there is to go from the Klingon perspective)...but it seems these Klingons are without Honor nevertheless.

It is a good day to die...if you are Honorable.

Live long, fight hard, and prosper!
Ya, thats a game wide issue that every faction has in every game.

Its sad really....
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