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# 11
02-01-2010, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ProPain26 View Post
Solution, place 2 turrets in yoru rear, and torps in your front.

I can solo 3 warships and 5 Birds of Prey like this at once. set shields on max, confuse the bulk of them, kill all the little guys first. use confuse and jam targeting as often as possible to limit the damage u take... polarise hull helps heaps too as a mitigation. High Yield Torpedo every chance u get.

If you dont like the sound of that, jsut cruise around and get the smaller groups.

You get loads of loot. most of it u cant use, but come on... we DID choose an odd class to play... most of us should have known that we were going to get jacked on loot.
Taking on a large group of difficult opponents is not the problem with a science vessel. They can certainly take some punishment. The problem is it takes more time, DPS is lower. How do you deal with "helpers" jumping in to pew-pew at the battleship once you have all the frigates knocked down?
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# 12
02-01-2010, 02:26 PM
I would also like to mention that when you join a group for any "Defend XYZ sector" mission or anything that requires you to group up always and I mean always check the "loot options" by press O on your keyboard. Often times I've been scammed by group leaders inviting people and getting all the loot. At the time I thought to myself well he's in an escort ship so obviously he's doing more DPS than I so that's why he's getting loot. I was wrong. As it turned out he had the loot option set to "master loot" so no matter who killed the mob he always got to loot it.

So again, in the event you're having the worst luck getting loot to drop while on a team - check the loot distrubution options.
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# 13
02-01-2010, 02:27 PM
There are plenty of quality loot in quests from Admiral Quinn and others. Of course doing patrol and defend sector mission from Sulu won't get you these
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# 14
02-01-2010, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by night04 View Post
I would also like to mention that when you join a group for any "Defend XYZ sector" mission or anything that requires you to group up always and I mean always check the "loot options" by press O on your keyboard. Often times I've been scammed by group leaders inviting people and getting all the loot. At the time I thought to myself well he's in an escort ship so obviously he's doing more DPS than I so that's why he's getting loot. I was wrong. As it turned out he had the loot option set to "master loot" so no matter who killed the mob he always got to loot it.

So again, in the event you're having the worst luck getting loot to drop while on a team - check the loot distrubution options.
ah, that might explain it. At least for my drops. I always jump into the fleet actions solo, and stay that way.
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# 15
02-01-2010, 02:29 PM
I fly a Science Ship too and even at the Lt. Cmdr. 7th rank I'm still not getting good loot. I actually had to buy Mk 3 phasers to speed up my fights. I don't mind that much but when battling 2 neg'vars and 3 BOP a little something extra would be nice when I finish them off in an hour or so.

Is it me or does the Science ship seem to be more for tanking. I haven't tried the crusier so I'm not sure. I just know if I direct my power into shields I can last a long time against multiple ships.
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# 16
02-01-2010, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nixboox View Post
I think someone forgot that the point was to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life, new civilizations and to boldly go where no one has gone before.

It wasn't: spam the hell out of the fire button and collect loot.
That would be awsome if it was viable. Explain to me how to get energy credits by exploring new worlds and not seeking loot? I don't care about the vast majority or crap that drops, for the most part. But when I hit Lt Cmdr and was about 6k short of being able to afford my next ship, the only option is to go out and loot, loot, loot!
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# 17
02-01-2010, 02:31 PM
Yes the loot system sucks, I Fly an escort, and in fleet battles/warzones, main reason escorts jump in on 'other' peoples kills arent to 'steal' you kills, its because were not 'a tank', a science vessel is a tank (as is a cruiser),

We dont steal kills, we help the tanks out with DPS, its not our fault CRYPTIC made it dps wins loot system, i personally think its wrong as we need tanks, debuffs, healers etc and should all get an equal share, as for the main rewards for top damage is bo**ocks too, cause the rest mis out on nice rare equipment.

Maybe they shoulld have 3 tiers for rewards:
1) top damage
2) top damage taken
3) top healing done

that way the rewards can go to specific ship types
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# 18
02-01-2010, 02:32 PM
I've noticed since head start, the drops have been reduced greatly. That being said, I have gotten dual disrupter cannon mk IIs 4 times, but thats about it. Something is amiss.
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# 19
02-01-2010, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Elwood011 View Post
But when I hit Lt Cmdr and was about 6k short of being able to afford my next ship, the only option is to go out and loot, loot, loot!
When I hit Lt. Cmdr, it only cost me 1 unit to buy my ship. Unless you wanted to buy a 2nd one?
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# 20
02-01-2010, 02:33 PM
You are a science vessel do exploration missions. These get you exploration credits that yeild garanteed loot of your choice back at the space dock.

Don't go solo. Make a friend. Yes this is a social game. I don't know a cruiser or escort pilot that wouldn't want a science vessel watching their back.

Use BOs like tool sets. Have one set up just for doing damage. Have another set up for support. Switch these out as needed. AOE damage abilities Tykers Rift, Gravity well, should help you out. Only use them when their shields are down as these do kinetic damage.

Also Cryptic could allow Damage healed in a fight to count twards loot share.
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